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Life has overtaken nude time at the beach the last several years. Plenty of nude spa time together, but we've been dealing with one kid's very serious problems with depression, so our time and energy has been soaked up dealing with them. They also came with us on our weekend walks, and the "chaperonage" pretty much kept us from the beach. Things are finally getting better, however.
They just moved out and took a job in another city, leaving us with an empty nest for the first time. Also, my wife has finally retired. The upshot is we are now getting back to walking nude at the beach. A wonderful positive has been that with the decrease in stress, Mrs. Dipper has been much more enthusiastic about our outings. She told me that she feels like she now has room to enjoy joining me nude at the beach. We are even thinking about spending some nude time relaxing at the beach instead of just doing our walk and leaving.
I'm hoping to find a club or group to sit near so that we have the chance to talk a little with other couples, and so we can avoid dealing with pervs. I think it would be good for both of us, and maybe introduce Mrs. Dipper to how other people enjoy nude recreation.
I'm having a little problem finding such a group at the moment, however. The old Black's Beach Bares seems to have gone defunct. There's a new group on Facebook, but they have failed to approve my membership request after almost a week, so I've made no actual contact. I think that most of the "real" nudists congregate by the volleyball nets, and if that's the best I can do, I'll just try parking our blanket there.
This has always been a good place to talk and seek support, so I thought I would return to the fold. I look forward to participating here, again.
If you're looking into social nudity, I would recommend a nudist resort. It's typically easier to connect with people there; as there are often scheduled activities that are social in nature.
It appears your wife is comfortable with nudity. That should make things easier.
I'm sure you're right, but a couple of hours kicking back at the beach after we walk is what she's agreed to do, so I'm trying to make it the best time that I can. I'll settle for having a relaxing time, and avoiding sunburn.
The obvious next step would be a vacation destination where we could spend a day at nude resort. Unfortunately, almost all ones around here are a bit rustic for us. Palm Springs is a definite possibility, for a day or weekend trip, but I'd have to work up to it.
Quite an amazing weekend! I had three days off and we went to the beach all three days. It happened spontaneously, I didn't have to push, or even ask. Mrs Dipper just assumed that's what we'd do, and she actually enjoyed doing it, instead of just going along only because I wanted to. I would have happily agreed to other activities in exchange for going just once. Part of it is that she really likes to see me enthusiatic about exercise, but again, I would have gone walking those days anyway. It definitely helps that we're getting used to the climb back up. It used to really bother her, but the last day, she powered right up, only pausing twice, I think.
I asked her again about her feelings about being nude. She says, she's fine with it, although she doesn't really experience the freedom and joy I describe, when I get to be nude in a natural environment like that. She claims she would enjoy it about the same if she were dressed. She does appreciate that when we finish, we get to put on clothes that are still fresh rather than face the day in clothes that we sweated into for a couple of hours.
I've also noticed that she used to act as if the other nude people simply didn't exist. Now she notices other people, like she would when we're in other places. It's subtle, but I consider it a positive sign that she's relaxing and treating the situation as normal.
I've ordered a nice sunshade, and we're on track to bring it and lunch along next weekend and spend an hour or two relaxing and picnicing after our walk. I think I've got the right area scoped out where a number of regulars seem to congregate, so we'll at least be surrounded by other couples.
Sep 27 '21
The weather was cooler and overcast, so we ditched the idea of taking any blanket time at the beach this weekend. We still went and walked in the nude both Sat & Sun, though. It was a little on the cool side, but still reasonably comfortable. On Sat, I think we witnessed some local Wiccans perform some sort of ceremony. A group of about 8 or so women were sitting together in a circle at the back of the beach when we passed the first time, most of them dressed. As we were coming back, we saw all of them "dancing" nude at the water's edge, dropping flowers as they went, all to the beat of a small drum. Later we saw them sitting in the circle again, occasionally beating the drum. Cool.
I noted a couple of pairs of nude couples, and told my wife that they looked like they were having a good time. This triggered my wife telling me, later in our walk, that she definitely did not want to interact with other people in the nude. She thought it was simply too weird. I told her that I didn't see it that way, and explained that I had read many accounts on the internet of the friendliness of most nudists, and how people often found great friends that way. However, I assured her that I understood her feelings, and wouldn't do anything she wasn't comfortable with.
Sunday was even darker and cooler, and I offered to go on one of our "other" walks. However, after considering a couple of choices she decided we would go to the beach anyway, the other choices not being convenient with errands we planned to do later. I half expected her to keep her clothes on, but she didn't.
The tide was in, so there was less hard sand to walk on. That and the cool temps caused us to walk on the softer sand, which warmed our feet and got us a lot more exersize. This brought us closer to people who were just kicking back on their blankets. We were on our second lap, and were passing a couple close to our age, where the woman, who was nude, had just pulled on a shirt. Since we were passing within feet of their blanket, she said hello, and asked how we were doing.
We stopped, and I said pretty good even though the sun hadn't made it out. The woman said she had only made it to chapter two of her book before she got too cold and had to put some clothes on. Mrs Dipper said she had thought about doing the same a couple of times. I replied that since we were walking, we were probably a little warmer.
I would have introduced ourselves and tried to have a slightly longer conversation, but I was mindful of Mrs Dipper's feelings about socializing nude, so left well enough alone. After we left them, I said that they seemed very friendly. Mrs Dipper said that she guessed that was what I had been reading about. I'm still going to suggest we pack a lunch, set up a beach shade, and spend a little while kicking back after one of our walks week. We'll see if it works out.
This morning as I was getting ready to leave for work, she gave me kiss and asked me if I had had a great weekend. I said that I had indeed, and asked her if she had as well, and she said yes.
All in all, the end of a excellent September. We walked nude together on the beach basically every day that I had off, and Mrs Dipper had a good time while doing it. Plus lots of nude spa time I didn't bother to mention. I feel like we're turning a new corner on our relationship, not that it wasn't good before. I credit a lot of it to extra time spent really talking, and some of the action that has triggered...mostly fixing up stuff around our house in anticipation of my joining her in retirement in the next year or two.
One thing about short outdoor vacations is that all your hopes are pinned on having good weather in that narrow window of time.
When it comes to south Florida, I have enjoyed pleasant or even hot nude beach weather in November and December, it's not a guarantee, but certainly possible.
Having a backup plan or a longer number of days to wait the bad weather out can improve your sense of it being time well spent.
Still, DipperDave, you and your wife are learning through conversations and real world experiences and that alone is worth its weight in gold.
Thanks for the update!
With her specific request not to socialize in the nude, I have basically two ideas for travel to destinations with nude recreation. One would be nude beaches, which we already do. I think we would enjoy going to a beach where we would be inclined to spend the day relaxing. We might also encounter other travelers with which conversation could come up spontaneously in a way she might give a chance.
The other, which I really want to do, is travel to Germany and visit German spas where coed nudity is expected or required. I've been to one during business travel several years back and enjoyed it a lot (not to mention the sauna and steam rooms in my hotel which were nude and coed). She has also visited and enjoyed German spas before we met, although she always chose a non-coed day since she didn't have a male companion at the time. She's as enthusiastic about this as I am, so once COVID stops making travel so complicated, we will likely plan such a trip.
I think others may have brought this up, but on public beaches, most people find that they (thinking particularly of women) are not subject to rude remarks, indecent proposals IF they sit in fairly close proximity to a "Friends of ______Beach" sort of naturist club.
If she can bring herself to sit near other nude people, from what I have seen, your wife will not be forced into awkward conversation, your fellow nude beachgoers are frequently there for the tranquility of wind in the palms, the soothing music of the waves hitting sand. They will see from her demeanor that your wife wants a quiet visit.
On the other hand, if you choose to isolate yourselves from other nude sunbathers, you open yourselves to the worst of the public, particularly if you (the guy) step away to get something from the car. Beach gawkers don't wait long to impose themselves on solitary women.
A European spa sounds wonderful and it does eliminate concerns about the weather.
Korean style spas can be found in many American cities and may give her some practice with same-sex nudity that might ultimately improve her comfort with coed nudity when you two visit Europe in the next year or two.
Just a thought!
This last weekend proved hot at the beach, not just for the time of year, but in general. We managed three days at the beach again. I've told her that we don't always have to go there, but she keeps choosing it...no complaints here. Not going to do a detailed post, but there were a couple of worthwhile things that occurred. One day we finally brought food and our new sunshade so we could hang at the beach for a little while. We were late getting there because we had to wait for someone at the house. I carried eveything down to the beach and we walked straight to where I wanted to set up, near a number of beach regulars already nude and enjoying the day, instead of getting undressed immediately. I made the mistake of not setting up the beach shade at home at least once, and found that it was not intuitive at all. I had struggled with it for about 5 or so minutes when a (nude) guy sitting nearby came over to help.
I was happy to have the help at that point and it took us a few minutes to figure out how the poles went to hold the thing up. I thanked him, then we got undressed and set up our base. He was talking to another couple right in front of us, so I went over to shake his hand and exchange names. Mrs Dipper was sitting at our shade and waved and said hi as I introduced her to Terry. He was such a genuinely nice guy, that Mrs Dipper was not bothered by the short exchange and just commented to me how nice he was. We got everything settled, then took off for our walk. After one lap up and down the beach, we found the sun was just too strong for our taste, so retired to our base to eat lunch and kick back in the shade.
This is when I became aware of just how comfortable Mrs Dipper has become with being nude at the beach. She just completely let go and allowed herself to relax, something that doesn't always come easy for her. We spent a couple of hours that way until it got late enough for the sun to be not quite so strong, then finished our walk. We came back, packed up our stuff, and got dressed. Terry was still sitting nearby, so we went over and thanked him again, and swapped chit chat for a minute before heading out. He left us with his sort of motto, "Get naked and chill out!"
The other interesting thing was the following day as we were doing our more normal nude walk early in the morning. Our conversation had come back to being nude and I expressed my gratitude for her understanding and willingness to try it in the first place. After a while, she said to me, "This is your most favorite thing to do, isn't it?" I admitted that it probably was. The conversation moved on to whether we would ever relocate in our retirement, and she noted that it would be hard for me to not live near this beach, or to not have our private backyard to hot tub in, and I agreed that I really wouldn't want to give those things up.
I feel that we've now reached a point where she really understands what being nude means to me. I know it still isn't HER favorite thing to do in the world, but it is no longer something that pushes her comfort zone. What a marvelous journey the last few weeks have been.
As I've often said, the key to confidence with nudity is repetition. And it definitely looks like you're on the right path.
As far as socialization, I think that has to happen organically. At the beach or resort, when you keep running into the same people, a simple "Hi!" can eventually turn into a conversation; and in some cases even into a full-fledged friendship - if you end up "clicking" with the other person(s).
Some venues facilitate socialization a little bit more; such as smaller resorts, spas, non-landed clubs, nudist B&B's, etc... You have the right idea to try one. I know my wife didn't really envision spending a lot of time interacting naked with other people; but the nudist B&B provided the right environment for her to try it. She found that she actually had no problem hanging out naked with strangers; much to her own admitted surprise.
Anyway, just a thought! Keep it up!
I never gave a lot of thought to the simple idea of repetition, but it makes tons of sense. I'm sure the sheer number of times we've been nude at the beach recently has something to do with the obvious increased comfort. I'm not ready to suggest a day trip to a resort, but I think we can spend some more time chilling at the beach, and if we see Terry or the woman who greeted us before again, I'll be sure to say hi or at least wave. If we keep seeing the same folks, I expect that we'll have more positive interactions.
At some point soon, nude time at the beach is going to be curtailed for the winter, although there may be individual days where we can strip off. I'll have to be ready to get it started again in earnest next spring.
It was a very nice weekend for the beach after nearly 2 months of non-optimal weather. Air temp was about 65, with a minimal breeze and clear skies so it was plenty warm. Nothing special, just our normal 2.5 hour walk on the sand enjoying nature the way it ought to be. Next weekend is forecasted to be in the high 70's so it should be even better. Sadly, the spa is still too cold to use (technically, we COULD use it, but it would take over an hour to get up to temp this time of year and I'm not willing to spend the money to do that.)
My wife has been complaining that she was getting too much sun. I thought we were OK with how careful we are with sunscreen but she didn't. We were going to the beach 2-3 times a week when the weather was good, so I suggested that we limit our visits to once a week, in general. It should help with the sun, and I honestly think that we could burn out on it over the course of a whole summer if we don't cultivate more variety in our activities.
Interestingly, this Message Board has a couple of threads going here: "Quitting nudity" and "Getting Back to the Beach."
Without a private back yard, nude time requires that a couple (or single) mingle with others in a social setting. Linda and I have time and place to indulge, and to invite others to join. There is a reluctance to begin the process and to encourage others, though, once a couple is already amenable to social nudity, adding to the circle of acquaintances is easier.
There isn't a beach which would allow nudity here in Missouri except on private property, and as far as nudity in someone's own back yard, inviting others to join smacks of assertiveness outside of their comfort zone.
We can't expect a newbie (or a neverbie) to go from zero to one hundred in a short time. Conversion requires careful instruction, demonstration and assurance that it will be okay to ease into a lifestyle contrary to normality. To that end, simply introducing the subject of social -- carefully emphasizing that this isn't public -- but social nudity is not upsetting.
Linda and I don't expect any of our neighbors to engage in any activity that they would not want to do, but both she and I do expect them to be aware of what goes on behind our privacy fence, and that it's all okay.
We don't want to quit. That's too easy. We want to get on to the Beach.
The beach is what you make of it. Sitting on a towel for 5 hours sounds pretty dull, but if you could work in some other activities, it might liven things up.
Most of this could be done wearing clothing, but its hard to beat the comfort of bare skin on a warm day. Anyway, here's a short list to get things started (although you may need to recruit others to join in:
Put on some music and dance
Building sand castles, sand sculpture
It's still too cold for outdoor nudity here, but a sauna would feel great this time of year and you could invite friends if it isn't too tiny.
Variety is key for any activity. Having a range of things that interest you equally means you have a few other options available if time/weather/circumstance/boredom prevent one option.
A documentary I once watched had an interview with an older guy out nude on his sailboat. He accused the younger generation of nudists as being "young fogeys", as all they wanted to do was sit around at resorts or clubs rather than getting out and enjoying activities.
Hey, if you like walking on the beach, taking a jacuzzi, doing crosswords, bouncing on pogo sticks, gardening, Zorbing and painting, chances are you'll find the opportunity to do one, all or any of those nude as circumstances permit :laughing:
Surely, the beach or anywhere is what you make of it. For us, I think once a week, in general, is a good balance, that's all.
Life issues caused two of our kids to move back in, and it put a cramp in our beach walks for a while. They know we visit the nude beach when we go on our own, and they know we've gone nude there in the past, but we haven't bothered to discuss our activities in detail. To be honest, there have been much more important subjects for discussion.
We've been getting back to it, though. This last weekend was nice. We got out early, and the marine layer stayed pretty thick all morning, but the temperature was fine.
DipperDave, what do you mean by "the marine layer"? I'm a midwest guy here who doesn't know much about marine anything. Thanks.
The marine layer is a thick overcast that forms over the ocean at the coast. In the early morning and evening it comes inland. The warmth of the day usually pushes it offshore, but not always or sometimes not for long.
At present, the beaches of the southeastern US states are where I go for salt water recreation. It is astonishing how different the experience is between Pacific and Atlantic or the Gulf of Mexico.
Here in summer, morning humidity can make for hazy skies and beautiful sunrises, but no actual marine layer in the hot months. It is a delight to walk the beaches right before sunrise. Temperature can be 80 and with the land breeze, you might feel slightly cool if you are in shorts or wearing nothing. In the afternoon, you can almost set your watch by the afternoon storms. With all the lightning, it is not safe to remain on the beach until the storms have passed, typically after 3:00 pm. Besides, with temperatures hitting 90 on up to 100, it calls for a change of pace; so you can go back to your campground, cabin or motel and have lunch, read a book or visit with family. With the storms gone, ideal beach weather resumes and you can enjoy the beach until dark. Until well after dark, the strong flow of air from the sea is very refreshing. I don't swim in the sea after dark because the big fish come close to shore and I don't want to be nipped by them. But there's nothing finer than watching the moon rise over the Atlantic and turning the sea a silvery color.
There are days when a marine layer develops, but it tends to be in the winter or spring when the sea is still cooler than the land. It isn't a daily event like it is on the west coast.
When summer disappears here, you can head south until you find it again. I enjoy swimming near West Palm Beach in mid-November. Near Miami, it is easy to find good beach weather until January.
Although the conditions are very different across the continent, the handful of beaches in the US where nudity is tolerated have a common experience of freedom and connection with nature. Some beaches are more lively, some offer a more mellow, tranquil setting.
Since the dawn of time, people have flocked to the zone where land and sea meet. To complete the magic of the experience, walking the shore in our natural state connects us with ancient ancestors and with nature itself. Some of us find the beach a place to connect with God. I do believe it is easier to hear his voice when we are there.
DipperDave, thanks for the explanation.
Beautiful day at the beach. Got out early to beat the heat. Lots of people out enjoying the sun. It seems to me that this summer there are a lot more younger folks going nude than I've seen in the past. Not sure why that might be, or if it's just because I've spent more time there this summer than before.
Got out both of the last two weekends. One morning my daughter (28) said she wanted to come with us. I said it was no problem, but she should know that we take these walks in the nude. She asked if we could keep our clothes on this time, and I responded that it was part of the point of going there. She almost talked herself into going anyway, but then decided not to.
It was probably just as well as I'm pretty sure Mrs. Dipper would have kept her clothes on if she had come, which would have left me in a slightly awkward spot. It's not modesty, as she has seen us in the hot tub nude many, many times, just the different environment, I suppose.
When we finished our walk this last weekend and stopped to get dressed, there were a twenty-something couple on towels sitting a little ways away from us. The man was nude and had been swimming and the woman was just sitting in exercise clothes. I was busy getting our clothes out, and when I turned around again, she had taken her shirt off and her partner seemed to be encouraging her to finish undressing, but she was looking around nervously and hesitating.
We quickly finished and headed away. After a bit I glanced back and saw that our departure was apparently the extra privacy she needed to get nude. Part way up the cliff, we rested and I saw them come out of the water, get dressed and head back towards the nearby clothed part of the beach. I guess they just decided to give nude swimming a quick try.
I liked how you gently but firmly stated that you would be going nude that morning. It seems all too often others expect us to simply set aside our preference for nudity just because they don't like it. That is selfish, disrespectful and unreasonable. Good for you on holding to your plans.
Thank you for these beach reports.
DipperDave, nice reports of your wife's increasing comfort with long nude beach walks. Black Beach's is beautiful, cool ocean breezes give welcome relief on hot California days, and unlike many beaches, the nude section stretches so far people can enjoy a really long walk, and if they get too hot, can walk knee-deep into the ocean, or swim before returning to walking.
You wrote this:
BB, you wrote:
"From years of introducing women to nude beaches, private pools, resorts, and swim clubs, if I can get an overly nervous woman to swim nude, more often than not, her swimsuit stays off once she's out of the water. Then she learns how wonderful it feels to have warm sun and warm breezes dry her skin".
A friend has been willing to try nudity at Cypress Cove with me but was resolute about not taking off her swimsuit because of the risks of infection and water getting where it had no business going. Have you come across this issue? How did you resolve it?
BeachBunny, I appreciate the encouragement. My remark about "nothing special" wasn't a disparagement at our progress, but just a reference that the visit had the usual pattern of walking without anything out of our usual routine happening.
It seems to me that there are plenty of women participating nude. It's not uncommon to see small groups of women (2-4) where one of them is nude and the others are topless or in suits. This typically happens right around the bottom of the main path down. Proceeding north towards the volleyball nets the nude participation is more general. One phenonmenon I've seen recently is couples where the woman is nude or topless and the man is in trunks. Mind you, this is nowhere near as common as the opposite, but I've seen it a handful of times.
I prefer not to second guess WHY people do or do not go nude. Everyone should feel free to do what makes them most comfortable. Gawkers aside, I feel that people who get comfortable being around nude people are that much closer to perhaps trying it themselves. If there were signs that the beach were being "overrun" by non-nudists, I might be concerned, but that definitely isn't the case.
This does remind me of running into a family (mom, dad, son, daughter) coming down as we were going up. They were talking to some other people, and had seemingly just realized that there were nude people down on the beach. The mother was in the middle of being reassured that they could turn left when they got to the beach and go past the cones if they didn't want to be in the nude part of the beach. I didn't hear the conversation that led up to that point.
A couple of weeks ago, we were stopped on the beach by a couple from Canada who had just arrived. The gentleman wanted to know exactly where the boundaries of the nude section were. I explained them to him, mentioning that if he went south past the cones, everyone would be clothed. He said, "Hell no!" We went on with our walk and passed them a couple of times later walking the length of the beach, in the nude of course, just as we were.
Thanks, DipperDave, for the update on Blacks. Glad I encouraged you, and perhaps also your wife. Sounds like things are returning to how they used to be before some bad incidents with phone cameras scared off many female UCSD students and students at other area schools.
Thanks, CalgaryMark. No apologies needed! The board's gone quiet (makes sense since summer is ending) so for a while I was checking to see if you or DipperDave wrote back, but stopped checking after I didn't hear from either of you for a while.
In-person nudism took priority over this message board for the last few weeks. We had some really great weather, not just unseasonably warm but hot, which made nudism a natural choice for swimming and suntanning.
Yes, CalgaryMark, I appreciate your recommendation for massages at a nude resort. We've had nude massages at some high-end nudist resorts on vacation. Totally professional and no different from a massage at a textile facility, except no need for draping and towels. Also something we wouldn't have tried on our own — one overseas resort we visited on vacation offered classes for couples in sensual massage. (Yes, it was a legit nudist place.) We've been married since shortly after college graduation, but learning some techniques as a couple was REALLY enjoyable. We'd recommend that for any married couple, and in fact we recommended that one couple who we knew would struggle with false modesty after marriage go to that resort on their honeymoon. They declined, but we wish they'd gone.
I've written more on several people who came to the lakefront cottage on a "now or never" thing, knowing they might not get another chance before late spring. All are friends of friends, mostly freshmen students at the university brought by some of our cottage regulars who are students, and we didn't know any of them before their visit, but all enjoyed it and all came back at least once, usually several times.
Not sure whether to post. First-time stories often sound alike. Will decide later after the visitors see what I wrote and get a chance to edit it.
I haven't posted because weather and illness have conspired to keep me from the beach over the last month. With temps plunging by 20 degrees into the 60s this weekend, I suspect we won't be making then, either. As far as my daughter is concerned, she was never considering going nude and I was never suggesting it. The only thing on the table was whether she still wanted to join us despite our going nude.
I can't say I've noticed any unwritten rules on swimming, one way or the other. Most swimmers are nude, but then most people on the beach are nude.
As far as clothed walkers, Black's is unique in that it's uncrowded and very long. The nude part is about 1.5mi and if you include the clothed parts at each end it's easily double (or more) that distance, making a round trip a very decent hike for getting some serious exercise while enjoying nature. It's one of the main reasons we go. Doing two laps of the nude section is a good workout. I really don't really think any of the hikers are there to gawk.
It's been a slow summer for us. We've had some family issues overtake us, and only got to the beach a handful of times. However, we got down there yesterday, and the weather was perfect. Was low to mid 70s and sunny when we got down to the sand, with almost no wind. The water was crystal clear and still warm enough to enjoy walking in the shallows.
One thing that keeps us coming back is how much walking nude at the beach encourages intimacy between us. Not sexual intimacy, but being able to freely and casually share our feelings and worries, without having the outside world interrupt.
Sure, this can happen if we're together clothed as well, but it never seems to come as easily in those situations. It's like we take off emotional barriers along with our clothes. I suspect that many of you have had similar experiences with your naturism.
Thank you for sharing those beach moments. I understand the connection between the honesty of nudity and the openness it fosters, you are on to something!
In your context it is openness as a couple, but I like what nudity does among friends as well.
Your story reminded me of an old song by Dan Hill. Here's part of the chorus:
And sometimes when we touch
The honesty's too much
And I have to close my eyes and hide
I wanna hold you 'til I die
'Til we both break down and cry
I wanna hold you 'til the fear in me subsides
The video for this song was filmed in 1994 and it showed a snippet of a couple walking on a beach. (of course it would!)
It's summer somewhere in the world!
I saw the board virtually died, but logged in today, saw new posts about Thanksgiving, and decided to give replying a try.
Sorry about your family issues, Dipper, and glad you were able to have perfect weather, "low to mid 70s and sunny when we got down to the sand, with almost no wind. The water was crystal clear and still warm enough to enjoy walking in the shallows."
It's too cold now to enjoy swimming at the lakefront cottage, but suntanning is great on a warm day in late fall. Some warm days prompted college students to invite friends who, as often happens this late in the season, felt "now or never until spring," and decided to try social nudity.
We agree with you on this: