We should so have this arguement at my forum so I can flame Toby to death.
He's not "evil". The emotional mind is evil but not the logical. Learn sarcasum. -.-
LOL I would LOVE to have this argument at your forum, if only I did'nt have to wait 4 hours for a reply! :D
I'm just going to ignore Hexi, he has nothing to give me, and I have nothing to give so what's the point?
I feel I can learn from you, you have something that I could use, a precious and interesting stance and view point on situations that no-one else could give me. It may seem that I am ignorant, disregarding what you say But I am not. I'm taking it all in and listening intently, It's helping me grow as a person.
The logical and emotional mind are both great.
Neither is "evil". Emotions are great, but lack of them is fine! Lacking what keeps us Good doesn't mean your bad, I've learned that.
I have no time for Hexi, You only live once, I've already wasted precious minutes reading what he writes, and I want those minutes back. :)
It's fine Toby. You will never understand what it's like because you are a part of the herd. It's peculiar though that you don't find value in anything i say yet unknown and wolfie see and understand my meanings, isn't it? Perhaps there is something amiss with your perception rather than the contents of my posts? :)
I am proud to be part of the herd, humanity. :D
I twisted that back on you, didn't I?
Btw - This doesn't constitute talking to you. :)
I understand your meanings, but they've nothing to teach me, and nothing to give me.
I find value in what Whitewolf and Unknown say. Unknown was the only person on here who actually made me think so hard my head hurt, she can put up a hell of an argument. :)
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with your posts, but I lost all respect I had for you when you told someone to commit suicide, up until then I admired you're honesty and you as a person.
That's not to say I will completely ignore you, just wait until you prove me wrong about you.
I wont expect that anytime soon... LOL ;)
Toby, remember how some psychopaths make others look bad? You're making religious freaks like yourself look bad.
After all that Jesus crap you spat at me.. you go and do this. Well so much for forgiveness. After all forgiveness is only for Christians that worship the exct same way you do. Otherwise they're a god forsaken pageon.. or whatever crap your mind makes up.
But this is how you all look inside... ugly. All that being nice is a front you use to disguise your judgemental attitude.
Religious Freak? I am a Christian.
"Go and do this"
If someone isn't a Christian, I don't see them as inferior. I have many friends who are Christian, Muslim, Atheist and one Zoroastriarian. I don't treat any of them differently. Why should I?
God said forgiveness was for everybody. That you should forgive your enemies. Thats not what you are doing. Hexi is unforgiven. You have all failed your God!!
/points finger right at you
But there is forgiveness... For $19.95 you can come to my confesion box and after a few dozen hail Marys... poof the magic jinn of forgiveness will remove the Heavenly check beside your name. And a good thing he did as you were close to detention! So keep coming back and I'll get rich. I mean.. your soul will be purified.
I should start my own cult.
...I'm sorry were we talking about something important?
I was just trying to raise pulses. Trying to be self conscience of the whole ego but it's hard. See Toby made me look at this crucified picture of a kid and said it was worse than when Jesus died. I laughed.
That's right ladies and gentleman.
I found a disgusting picture of a 7 year old that'd been crucified with his head half off nailed to a cross and what was Whitewolf's reponse?
"I don't see how that child suffering is significant."
What kind of monster would say that?
And Whitewolf - I never said it was worse than than when Jesus died. That was a 7 year old crucified with half a head, and you... laughed!?
It's not my place to forgive Hexi, he hasn't done anything to me.
But if you think it helps, I forgive you.
Judging by the responses in that other thread, i did insult your and everyone elses mothers. Does no one see the irony that, instead of ignoring my tasteless comment and actually taking the time to try and give advice to the person asking a quesion, people hurl insults at me, telling me how horrible i am? Not to mention the laughable "you are unintelligent" comments.
When did sympathy and "good taste" become a mark of intelligence? Was a person who single-handedly turn germany from a bankrupt, beaten nation to an economical superpower stupid? LOL?
I'm telling you his head isn't half decapitated. It's just broken to the side.
Doctors and nurses have this same reaction when they see patients. Why? Because they are so used to seeing horrific things that they become desynsetized to dying people and death.
Are they being inhumane? Not at all. Because someone must be calm and rational while others are freaking out. A calm rational mind can respond better and faster. Helping the patient relax and suffer less.
To the stu.. To the untrained eye they would seem inhumane.
Your lack of knowledge is disturbing. For all your age you lack any real original thought. You almot seem like a steriotypical clone. Which deminishes the value of your life in my perspective.
I don't like naysayers and anyone who shoots down creativity and imagination for uniformed clone life. Thats how governments want you to be. A loyal slave who won't make waves or ask questions.
You don't exist in my perfect world, Toby. :-(
Oh, I though it was half decapitated. I didn't have time to asess his neck. :)
No, I wouldn't see them as inhumane, I'd see them as... desensitized.
Whitewolf... In a perfect world, Psychopaths don't exist, you do, just not the Psychopathic brain.
I've got alot to show for my age, what do you have to show for your age? I am 31 and I've accomplished everything I wanted to do by the day I died. Life's just a big adventure to me, people like you drift through life, nothing to show for it.
No wonder you guys turn into Serial Killers, you see yourselves for what you are.
Wow toby, you claim to know anything relevant about my life? This should be interesting, do share!
You also don't understand that what makes *you* happy and what is important to *you* in life is absolutely meaningless to others. I'm not gonna get married or have children, not because i can't but because i wont, it's a conscious choise. I was engaged once, untill i did some soul searching and realised what i truly am. In your opinion, to achieve something in life i should do something i don't belive in (marriage) and lie to a person i would marry to appear happy and reach some standard? So you believe living a lie is better than being honest to yourself and others?
I don't know anything about your life. Nothing at all. What you've told me I've forgotten. :D
Besides your 25 and live in Finland and are a homosexual (but not penises touched so it doesn't count). ;)
Are you happy with your life? What are your goals for your life? What would you like to accomplish?
No, you should live life as you see fit, while trying not to hurt others along the way.
Well I'm glad you're happy.
Marriage might be like that for you, but not for me. Or the millions of happily married couples around.
DragonTongue, you're the ideal psychopath.
I still am having trouble calling you a Psychopath, it seems more like a label fit for a bad person...
Thats quite tame, Toby. Am disappointed in you! Google pain olympics if you want to see cool stuff.
Alright, Alright! I admit it, I'm a wimp! :`(
25! He looks like he's 10!
You criticize Hexi for a joke in poor taste but with relevant meaning and then you flood the place with some of the worst crap known to man.
What's the point of bringing up the German cannibalism case? Ooo, look at the gore, but don't dare think about any of the significance within the case. There is a great deal of psychologically relevant thinking to do with that case, but God forbid you stop to analyze any of it.
So, it's not ok to joke about something horrible in an effort to convey some deeper meaning, but it's ok to dredge up horrific images and reports of horrific behavior for no purpose other than the gross-out factor?
Haha, this is getting just stupid. Do i think that he would be better off just killing himself? Yes, i do. If something as insignificant as that causes "emotional torture" what happens when he has something serious happen to him? He will either lose it and hurt others or himself. The girl obviously wants the past to be the past but no, the dude insists on knowing for some retarded "I'm a man and she needs to obey me" reason given by his faith. He is willing to wreck his life over some pointless belief and most likely will brainwash his children to do the same. So yes, i do think he is a waste of space. If everyone coddles that kind of behavious he will never realise how idiotic it is and will go through life thinking he is entitled to something because of his faith and if he doesn't get what he wants, flipping out is an appropriate response.
So just stop arguing over what i did and didn't say.
You'll never understand what he's going through, and you have nothing to compare it to so of course you'd think like that.
No, he certainly wouldn't be any better of dead, that's a cowards way out.
Besides, Islam forbids suicide.
Being intelligent is great, it just loses you friends when you constantly correct them when they're wrong.
Yes, I know racism was the wrong word, I couldn't think of a better word to best portray discrimination against a religion.
You make wild claims and accusations, then say why do you argue? So if i call you names, accuse you of incest and you refute it, you're being argumentative? The hell is wrong with you? If you can't defend you're claims and position, don't talk crap.
Ofcourse you care. You said i know nothing of islam and that i've never been outside of europe, i say that i indeed have and you say you don't care AND that i lie? Then you ask what do i know of islam... Apparently nothing since you already know i'm lying so whatever i may say is meaningless as you've already decided that i lie. Let's assume for a moment that you actually asked me what i know about islam. Ok, i could just go surf the internet for whatever info i would want to convey so asking things like that on an internet forum is idiotic but i guess you can't even think that far ahead, can you? Stop being an incoherent, rambling idiot.
Tell me, what other things i've claimed to have done "bigger and better" hmm?
Nah, he even said he uses Google when he doesn't understand what me and Whitewolf are talking about.
If your intelligence is on a par with yours... well.
Let us all just stop arguing; it's not really going anywhere.
Hexi - I don't think you're stupid, but the very fact you have to put others intelligence down doesn't say much about you, anyone knows that.
I never said that, Toby. Once again you refuse to answer my point and ramble on about something completely irrelevant. I'm not sure on words in English, that does not mean i don't understand what the meaning of it is. If we talked in Finnish i would never have to resort to such things. I think you sometimes forget that English is NOT my native language and i haven't taken any advanced classes in it that would entail medical or philosophical terms.
Explain to me, without rambling about something irrelevant, just a simple answer really. What does a persona ability to process information (intelligence) have to do with the amount of knowledge they have? Since you say that someone who looks stuff up on the net is not intelligent, i assume you have a reason for thinking that way. As an aside, don't try to dodge the issue with random crap again, just answer the question.
I know English isn't your main language, not only have you told me, it's some what obvious.
I know that the way it's employed today is a perversion of the original teachings, twisted by men to fit their needs. I also know that the quran is not meant to be taken literally, AT ALL, but instead to find meaning in it like, like listening to a song. In their view, god simply is. An infinite force that cannot be described. The point is to not argue who is right or wrong, but to get the message. Something which seems to escape a vast majority.
I'm not gonna write an essay about it, i don't care enough to be honest. :)
Oh, and i know you should capitalize "i" but it's such a minor thing, i've never bothered with it while typing. If i was writing on paper i would use better grammar to be sure.
Excellent comment Hexi! I especially liked this:
That's fine use as many i's as you want. :)
Nice Qu'ran comment.... :D
Yes, I got rid of the comment knowing you'd respond like this.
You're wrong Hexi. For Muslims the Qu'ran is a book of divine guidance and that it's teachings set out God's direction for all of mankind, and Jinn.
Just as the Bible, the Qu'ran contains guidance for humanity to follow and divine Law. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
And here is the core of it. You see the bible as set a rules and guidelines where i see it as a way to reflect on teaching to understand oneself. For example "he who is without sin shall cast the first stone" (not sure if thats the actual quote, don't get hung on that. You know what i mean) can be taken as to not throw stones at hookers or as to not judge blindly.
I see it as both guidance from God, and that entails "a way to reflect on teaching to understand oneself."
I wonder. How many of you think life is fair? That we are all born equal. That each person is just as good as the next.
Thats a fairytale people tell their half retarded kids to make them feel better about how fat and ugly they are.
We are not equal. The world isn't fair. Good does not triumph over evil. But instead evil decieved good. The Bible teaches you not to be judgemental but wise in your actions. Because even if good is tricked by evil to do something... good still did it and in Gods eyes when the blind lead the blind they all burn. God doesn't through all the blame on one person like society does. No, God blames you all no matter how good your intentions. Because good intentions pave the road to Hell. That saying is supposed to mean that you should think more and emotionally react less. As your emotional reaction could seem right but in reality be very wrong.
Toby, has good intentions. Like people of good intentions he wants to believe in the fairytale because it's more pleasent than reality.
But not mean. I've seen how truely ugly humanity is and I've learned that the only true people are the poor people. Everyone else is fake because they have something to lose. Want to see my superiority? Follow me into violence.
I once hit bambi as he and his mom crossed the street. I nailed his back half and looked in the mirror to see a baby deer spinning horizontally on his side. He spun right in the ditch. So I stopped, got out, had a sip of water, and walked back. He looked up at my but he was probably paralyzed as he didn't move. I poured some water on his mouth and watched him as he looked up at me scared and dying. I thought about how I had left the house angry and how my anger killed him. Just like it was killing my relationship.
I really just watched it die to see how that would effect me. Sadly it didn't bother me a bit.
All are equal in the eyes of God. :D
I didn't want to say that, but that's probably what you expected from me anyways.
in WAY he does be superior. he does BE special. there does BE only one white wolf but also there DOES be only one toby and SO ON. so in WAY we does be ALL superior but also same time we be EQUAL.
im is THINKING it doesnt even MATTERS because like i DID sayed we be ALL special.
Nice to see Lega has returned. Your replacement has arrived, Toby.
Whitewolf, I can't take you seriously while all your posts contain bold dots. LOL
Say whatever you want Whitewolf, but when it comes down to it you're a Homo and you know it. :D
I don't think homosexuals like Hexi would appriciate your derogatory use of his sexual preference.
We don't say homo in the US. It's insensetive to their ghey feelings.
Basicly Toby... you're a disgrace to the Church of England.
I feel sorry for you. In my perfect world you wouldn't have to exist if you didn't want. How's your wife and my kids doing? Comradery. I saw this really funny British cross dresser comedian. He's my favorite euro comedian. The rest of you suck. Deep down inside... America hates you. We are made at you for your timid weakness. Your cowardice and inability to serve us properly.
I think it's funny that the English lost their empire after ww2. The US tricked europe into weakening itself. We are so awesome. Oh and we stole radar and told the Brits to **** off about it... and they did!!
Wolfie, you should try something new, it's getting rather repetitive. Unless ofcourse, this is all you can manage, then it's understandable.
Yeah, try being... nice. :D
Nah, i have no desire to, to be honest.
Whitewolf... I am not seeing faces or whatever, I am seeing lots of dark dots...
This all put a smile on it face.
Whitewolf, We are all seeing dots! Not faces, or anything. We are seeing dots. :D
Why do I think Hexi is intelligent? Because I have learned from him. I know more about myself today than I did last month, in part, to insight gleaned from him. He appears to have carefully considered his beliefs, weighed them in the balance, and held on to those which make sense only. This is the mark of a rational and intelligent mind. Critical thinking is a talent and is unrelated to education.
Why do I think you are not intelligent? Because I've learned nothing from you. Nothing you say seems born of introspective thought but rather from repetition of someone else's ideas. You do not appear to have internalized what you believe.
Does that mean I think he is a better person than you are? No. You're just differently abled to reason. I don't think it has anything to do with your mental states or psychological definitions. I'm sure you have a talent, but critical thinking isn't it.
Discourse and debate are tools which should be employed to analyze what you think about what you know and to find areas where you need to do further research or thinking to solidify, augment or change what you know.
And, if he Googles, it is to broaden his perspective and understanding and not to just cut and paste a wiki article as if it were his own response.
You remind me very much of my 17 year old son. He thinks he knows everything. He's a good kid with a great heart and a very good person, but he certainly doesn't know all there is to know. No one does. Whereas it's normal for a 17 year old to think that way, it isn't for an adult.
I wonder why you feel the need to be right so often. What do you do for a living, Toby? Some kind of low-level government statistics taker or accountant or something? Must you pigeonhole every little thing into a neatly labeled box?
I answer people's questions the way I do because this is an interesting intellectual exercise. The whole point of therapy is not to ask someone what to do to fix something but rather to find a way to discover the answers one needs on his or her own with just a bit of guidance in the right direction. What I actually think about the person or the situation is completely irrelevant and so I leave it out of my answers, for the most part. I live my life by a very strict set of rules because I choose to do so. Well, actually it's really only one rule, but I digress. If someone is looking for an answer to better himself or herself, why not point them in the right direction? Sure, they're probably not going to really evolve, but some will, and those few make it worth it.
Why would you assume a sociopath can only behave like an arrogant ass? I see no purpose in that, personally.
And, while I am possessed of a far superior intellect than are most individuals, I don't see it as a particularly valuable thing. It is neither advantage nor disadvantage. I am no more worthy a human being than is anyone else. I have to put my pants on one leg at a time. I have to make my mortgage payment each month. I have to eat and sleep and poop. I just happen to be "smart" in the way that some people happen to be artistic or athletic. Once you assume you know everything there is to know, you prove yourself a fool.
There is: You, DragonTongue, Whitewolf, Hexi and Psycho1.
You and Dragontongue are completely fine.
Whitewolf is under the delusion he's "superior" for his lack of humanity.
Hexi's enjoys insulting people for their religious views, and telling people to end their lives, but apart from that he's alright.
Psycho1, well, from the emails he's been sending me since I told him he wasn't superior, I can safely say he's got problems.
When doing A level Law in college we were being taught about a similar case in the US, of homosexual sado-masachism, there were a bunch of men and they took it in turns to nail their penises to a board, and other disgusting acts. But they weren't found guilt of anything because It was between a bunch of aduly males, and each had given their consent.
Is that a common ruling in America? That if it hurts no-one who hasn't given their strict consent then it's legal?
I don't know if I agree or disagree with that ruling, but it makes sense, doesn't it? So long as they're adults of sound mind, and have given their consent of course.
Whitewolf leave him alone, you twist his words and try and turn what he says back on him while he remains calm and refuses to insult. Showing you anything? Try and be nice, yeah?
Eh, I thought it was funny. I can appreciate it was inappropriate humor for a forum of this nature, but I literally chuckled when I read it. I took it to be dripping with sarcasm rather than literally instructive.
If the kid's looking for help, maybe he will evolve, but it's just as likely he'll grow up to be as narrow minded and thoroughly thoughtless as, well, never mind.
im DOES thinking your IS true man and BRAVE to actualy argues with MANY peoples SAME TIME when they TRY bully you and hold to yours BELIEFS TOBY. im is THINKING you is right in say that IT bad to say KILL YOUSELF to person who is in BAD MENTALLY STATE. im is THINKING that if you IS thinking LOGICAL then even THEN it not GOOD THING to say but doesnt GET mad at HEXI im is thinking that probably SOCIOPATH dossent really EXISTS but they just is DOESNT knows about it themself and DOESNT understand themslef because HATE and other THINGS. this is just MORE proofs to mine THEORY because im is THINKING you can only say that to PROOFS that "im is SOCIOPATH i can SAYS this but you isnt CAN" but not REAL REASON to say it but maybe SHOW he is sociopath like with ONLY reason to tell that he is sociopath not actually anything LOGICAL maybe. im also THINK that maybe they should try PRAY to God because that CAN helps. im is ALSO can always help just asks for HELP.
im IS THINKING that all people is INTELIGENT in own way we is ALL SPECIAL you can says someone is INTELIGENT because he does BELIEFS in same thing you DOES beliefs in or because you THINKS inteligent PEOPLES is like that and is what you TRYES to be too or is MAYBE. so it BE stupid to ARGUMENTATION about who be INTELLIGENTER. and remembers that ALL people is special you DOESNT needs to be CERTAIN people like SOCIOPATH to be special or enything you always is SPECIAL even without that. TOBY is special HEXI is special WHITEWOLF is special ROBERT is special all is special in own way... why you care who is more special when you cannot EVEN calculates that.
and you should not GET ANGRY at TOBY hexi and TOBY you should not GET ANGRY at hexi. people is DO mistakes but they can APOLOGIZES and you ISNT helpping someone be BETTER PERSON if you does just say they is BAD. im is THINKING all people is have GOOD HEART but also BAD side im is here to TRIES help CURE it.