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Re: Soldiers VS Warriors

Well i would imagine it varies from person to person but for me playing games is great. I mean games that require thinking to be precise. Sometimes drugs or just simply going out to do stupid stuff.

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What kind of games?
:-)

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I don't wish to derail this thread, Toby. I'm hoping more pople give input to this topic.

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I think a psychopath would also be better suited for sustained durations. Where as normal people begin having emotional breakdowns...

Toby, claims 7... psychopaths made 4 girls homeless by burning down their homes. I don't think so. The possibility of seven psychopaths being together is crap. I believe they were just normal people who broke under pressure.

An entire platoon of US marines lost their minds after one of their friends died. An Iraqi laughed at their lose. So they massacred most of a village and blew a childs brains out. None of them were psychopaths.

I believe a psychopaths lacks of emotional involvement required to have traumatic emotional breakdowns. Fear cannot compel us. Hate cannot sustain it's grip on us either. While soldiers grow to hate Iraqis and Afghans... psychopaths would not because we are incapacle of sustaining feelings of hatred.

We are seemingly designed for war. We are more likely to treat others with a fairness than soldiers who are suffering traumatic stress. Able to see past any emotional barriers.

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When did I say that? 4 Girls?
And It was a group labelled "psychopaths" by the media, and I was just making the point that because of that psychopaths are banned from joing the British Army. It doesn't matter is you are psychopath or not, everyone is just as dangerous in war time.

I do agree that psychopaths are more fitted for war and fighting scenarios, I was just trying to make the point that the British Army doesn't allow psychopaths, it only allows people that can easily be emotional twisted by their enemies, they could experience empathy that would stop them from firing on an enemy, the enemy then has the upper hand and could kill said soldier. Psychopaths however could not experience that empathy...
But one thing, once psychopaths start fighting in wars, what's stopping them from going crazy and killing anyone? (Stupid question, I know...)

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What's stopping me from killing random people now? It's no different. An Afghani means as much to me as a random passerby on the street.

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Exactly.

In actuality psychopaths are far more stable than normal people in combat situation.

In my mind I see Toby as someone who thinks that once a psychopath begins to kill.. we will become unstable and kill everyone. But that is not possible for us. But it us very possible for your kind. There have been countless events in current history where normal men have lost their minds and murdered groups of innocent people simply because they snapped.

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I won't pretend I understand psychopathy, so I ask lots of questions, most of which appear stupid to you. :-)

Whitewolf - Do you think the same as Hexi, that an Afghan Inoccent is of little to no importance? If you do, that wouldn't be so great in combat...

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How old are you, Toby?

Your failure to comprehend his words and twisted interputation is exactly what's wrong with your kind.

All he said was.. an Afghani means no less or more than anyone else to us.

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OK, And what exactly is "anyone else" worth to you?
Nothing - So an Afghani is worth nothing? And don't say normal people mean something to you, because you've said the opposite many times.
How old am I? - Irrelevant. How old are you?

"Our kind" :-)

I don't want to turn this into another argument, but other people aren't really worth much to psychopaths are they? I'm not saying others are worth nothing to you, just obviously not much... Or am I missing something? I probably am...

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Hati gets destroyed. I don't care.

The US gets attacked on 9/11. This concerns me as this affects me. But unlike all the screaming emotional people... I am not demanding immediate action. I want to first understand why my enemy attacked me. If I understand why... it gives me insight into how to react in a manner most affective.

...but all the screaming and crying emotional people can't see two feet in front of their own eyes. They are angry and scared and they demand BLOOD! So they listen to a foolish leader and before these emotional fools know what's going on... There are two nations completely destroyed by war with millions of people displaced and thousands dead. While at the sametime plunging the world economy into the floor causing the suffering of billions.

Good job you stupid emotional people!!! Impress me further. Tell me of your ignorant reasonings for this. Tell me about how scared you were of WMDs. How you let fear overtake your ability to reason. How you surrendered your freedoms for the illusion of safety. ...I hate your kind. Your kind are responsible for the suffering of the world simply because you make poor emotional choices with thinking about the **** consequences of your actions.

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What whitewolf said is the reason why i don't think democracy works. The masses are always, always ruled by fear and ignorance, which are so easy to manipulate by those with understanding. The idea is great but just like communism, it's too easily abused. Crap, i don't mean to turn this into politics.

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Communism, in theory, is a great idea.
Is it not?

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Please, I don't want to start an argument with you Whitewolf.
I'm not going to start lecturing you on how you should care for Haiti, obviously that won't get anyone anywhere.
I completely understand what you're saying about people who get all emotional, they react differently, they are more likely to think on the spur of the moment. But it's instinctive, it's a survival mechanism.

I'm not going to try and tell you why you should care about others, if you don't know then nothing I say will change that.

Why do you "hate our kind" when 96% (Exact Figure) of serial killers are psychopaths? I really didn't want to fall to your level but I dont mind. :-)

You think I or anyone with intelligence should be scared of WMD's? I don't mind that some guy in a far away country supposedly has a few WMD's - NATO, Europe, America, etc are the best in the world in means of defense. If you become scared of them, they've won, they've accomplished they're goal.

I would always be interested in why an enemy has attacked me, then you can turn it against them and cripple them. :-)

How would you react if you found your daughter dead?
Do you mean that you would say "Oh no, my carpet is stained" and just not care? Or would you emote? Seek revenge? If so, thats what we feel when we hear of country has been attacked, and innocent people have been killed for no good reason.

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Toby
Please, I don't want to start an argument with you Whitewolf.
I'm not going to start lecturing you on how you should care for Haiti, obviously that won't get anyone anywhere.
I completely understand what you're saying about people who get all emotional, they react differently, they are more likely to think on the spur of the moment. But it's instinctive, it's a survival mechanism.

I'm not going to try and tell you why you should care about others, if you don't know then nothing I say will change that.

Why do you "hate our kind" when 96% (Exact Figure) of serial killers are psychopaths? I really didn't want to fall to your level but I dont mind. :-)

You think I or anyone with intelligence should be scared of WMD's? I don't mind that some guy in a far away country supposedly has a few WMD's - NATO, Europe, America, etc are the best in the world in means of defense. If you become scared of them, they've won, they've accomplished they're goal.

I would always be interested in why an enemy has attacked me, then you can turn it against them and cripple them. :-)

How would you react if you found your daughter dead?
Do you mean that you would say "Oh no, my carpet is stained" and just not care? Or would you emote? Seek revenge? If so, thats what we feel when we hear of country has been attacked, and innocent people have been killed for no good reason.


Serial killers make up practicly nothing when it comes to crime. But I can imagine why they do what they do. I imagine the void finally implodes on them. Every last thread is broken. So they change the game. They go from amusing themselves with people to torturing and killing them. All to feel more alive. To satisfy a need. Afterall you are not like us. In our minds you are no more than animals.

Also being duped into joining the US in this war is even worse than us starting it. It's not even your war. You're just there dying cause we told you to and thats what friends are for... cannonfodder.

Like I said before... We don't care about your kind. But my daughter is not your kind. In fact she is the only person who can make me feel remorse or concern or love.

I can prove it. When she was younger I had a little pvc statue she liked to play with. As she is my daughter I entitle her to all that is mine. So she played with it and started bugging me. I needed to focus and in a moment of lacking thought I grabbed the statue and tossed it towards the other room. The statue broke and as she looked at it upset and started crying I felt this terrible pain inside me. I had inadvertinly hurt her feelings and it hurt mine. It was a terrible pain. I can still feel remorse for it to.

I took her right to the toys r us and let her pick whatever she wanted to replace the statue. Anything to get rid of that terrible feeling. She forgave me right away but I never forgave myself. I've never felt these feelings for anyone else.

So when you tell me I don't know how great love is... you are wrong. When you tell me how people need to feel remorse or pain... you are wrong. I know exactly what your emotions are like.

I am a warrior... trained by the greatest nation on Earth. My combat skills have been tested my entire life. I've done terrible things for reasons that weren't even my own but I don't care. Half the time I forget and need to be reminded.

But that one moment when she cried.. devastated me. How I wished I could have not tossed that statue. Everytime I think of it... it hurts me. I love her so much. She is the world to me. She is me. To hurt her would be to hurt myself.

Thats why she lives so far away. I have to protect myself from these feelings for her. There are over protective parents and there are combat trained warriors.

So I keep myself away from her. The emotions I feel for her are dangerous and unstable. You'd probably call them normal but I think they're nuts.

I guess it's not that I care what people say to her as much as I care how she takes it. What happens when she becomes a teenager?! I'm literally the one father who really could kill her boyfriends if they hurt her. LOL

I know love. The aching terrible feelings. The unsettled stomach or chest that just hurt. I know that what joy love brings you it takes with it when it leaves.

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I don't think that we should have followed you into Afghanistan or Iraq, but that's another topic entirely.

I took her right to the toys r us and let her pick whatever she wanted to replace the statue.
:-)

Although you say you can feel love, If you truly could, you wouldn't be saying things such as -

I have to protect myself from these feelings for her.

and
The emotions I feel for her are dangerous and unstable. You'd probably call them normal but I think they're nuts.


"They're nuts"?
I think you're experiencing some sort of psychopath emotion... LOL.... If you felt love you would be happy, you would welcome it into your life, you dismiss it and run away from it.


I know that what joy love brings you it takes with it when it leaves.


True.


Do you know why I'm so adamant you can't and haven't felt true love? Oxytocin. Psychopaths lack it.
Oxytocin is reponsible for anxiety, trust, love, and rather interestingly, it's transmitted during hugs. LOL :-)

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Whiewolf. You feel obligated to protect her, no matter what and no matter what from. If you cause her pain you've failed in that task. She is your purpose. That is not love, atleast not the way i understand it. Then again, i've never felt anything even close to that so i might be talking out of my ass.

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Hexi is right, that isn't love, or at least not conventional love.
Love is hard to explain, It's a very strong feeling of attachment....
I could look it up in a dictonairy..

"This diversity of uses and meanings of love, combined with the complexity of the feelings involved, makes love unusually difficult to consistently define, even compared to other emotional states."

... But they're not much help. LOL

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No, it's love. Hexi just doesn't understand because he doesn't have children.

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You cant know for sure if it's love if you have never experienced it besides with your daughter....
You lack the neurotransmitter that creates "love" how then can you experience love?

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You can't even define love. More or less denounce my experience with it. Don't hate.

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I can't define love. The dictionary can't truly define love, find me someone who can, and I will give the, $500.
I don't denounce your experience with love. I just don't think it was love. You dont have the chemical that creates love, all psychopaths don't.
Read anything on the subject of psychopaths and It will say that psychopaths are incapable of feeling true love. They can experience a sort of love, but nowhere on a scale of the love we feel.

You didn't experience love, I'm sure.
That doesn't mean you didn't feel love, just not our strong type of love.

If you have a better definition of "love" I would love (LOL) to hear it....
Love isn't just one emotion, it's any number of emotions that relate to a very strong sense of affection and attachment.

With my children, I feel such love that I wouldn't even contemplate throwing something of theirs.
I'm not saying I am void of anger, or frsutration, but I would just walk off, and give myself time to cool down. That's my love.

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You have children...

Thats a bit alarming.

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LOL, Thanks.

They aren't religious, by choice. Probably because they are more intelligent than me...

But, I don't mind. I'll stick with my invisible man in the sky. :-)

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I forgot to mention that psychopaths have undying spirits.

We would never surrender. I would rather die fighting than ever concede defeat to anyone. I have gotten black and bloody welts in paintball simply because I refuse to surrender no matter how doomed it may seem. Too many times have I risen from the ashes of defeat to achieving absolute victory. Even with weapons baring down on me not even ten feet away... I fight.

This mentality would be devastating to enemy soldiers. To know no matter what you do... your enemy will not stop. They are seemingly evil. Killing your troops in inhumane ways. You know if they catch you... you'll die like that too. Because they don't take prisoners. If they get you... you're a dead man and you have a wife and kid to think about. Eating away at your defenses. They never surrender.

Tha'ts why we bombed Japan. They vowed to fight us to the death. Every man, woman and child. There is no way we could have ever reasonably defeated them.

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No, you bombed Japan because you knew that the threat of nuclear attack would not work as a deterrent unless you first show it's destructive power.

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I like food. Do you?

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Hexi
No, you bombed Japan because you knew that the threat of nuclear attack would not work as a deterrent unless you first show it's destructive power.


Actually it was the threat of genocide. The first bomb was a demonstration of power. But the second bomb was a show of genocidal force.

The Japanese realized that they would never fight the enemy. No honor combat. Only genocide against their entire race. They had no choice but to surrender. Rest assured.. had they similar technology... that war would have been the death of both nations.

But a warrior culture would never surrender otherwise. Unlike the French.

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LOL @ the French, They're cowards.

The Hiroshima Bomb that got Nagasaki was nothing like the Tsar Bomba. :-)

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whats the tsar bomba???
is that anothet type of nuke....???

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Yes, It means 'Tsar Bomb' in Russian. :D

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Toby
LOL @ the French, They're cowards.

The Hiroshima Bomb that got Nagasaki was nothing like the Tsar Bomba. :-)


But it will be similar to the bomb that obliterates your nation. Unless our cheap euro defense missle system works. I think Russia knows they are on our "killem all soon" list and thats why they invaded Georgia. I can't wait for that war. It'll be exciting to see Europe erupt in fire again.

All we have to do is finish off Russia and the US, in all of it's brilliants, will finally be able to establish world order. No more world wars. World peace sounds nice.

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Our commonwealths motto - "Peace is sought through war"... As much as I would love to argue against that statement, I cant. It's true. Once Russia and China have collapsed and democracy is fully established, there will be no world peace. Europe has great defence, our economy is the largest in the world. Europes economy is larger than yours. Britain has the 12 largest army (Its ****, I know)... Yet we have the 4th biggest military expenditure, Bigger than Russias.

The 'tsar bomba' could obliterate London and most of Surrey, (They're posh, noone will miss them) but It could destroy even more of Paris than it could anywhere because Paris is so small yet dense.
Good thing now Russia and China are working on nuclear weapons that leave no nuclear fallout... Oh, and we also have more Nukes than China. :D

I would like to see how America would handle a war on their soil, something the've not really experienced before... Britain has experienced battle uncompared, we have a pride filled sense of history when it comes to battle and war.
No doubt America could handle a war on its land, jsut would be interesting to see how it would play along...

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The size of your army means nothing to the US DOD. We are the supreme military force on Earth. We shattered soviet tactics and crushed the third largest army in the world without even losing 200 soldiers.

A war that shook history itself. Never before in the history of man has a war been so one sides and genocidal.

Since then our military might has continualy folded. Refining even the best. Masters in the art of war... my nation could crush the pitiful existance of anyone anywhere in the world.. remotely.

Your pilots in England are supposed to be good. How do you think they would fare if they were dogfighting a remote fighter jet? Pilots are limited by g force in their manuevers but not a remote fighter. I can see the brave and proud pilots of Britain.. valiently fighting. Against all odds you would fight but nevertheless be massacred as your planes were blown out of the sky. Even those you could shoot down would mean nothing in victory. Just remote planes... no enemy kill. Your air force would fall but more over your peoples moral would be crushed...

I don't ever see the US doing that to the British but it is that morally crushing tactic that we use against nations. Terrorists can run and hide but a lot of good that does. We'll just blow your entire village up and claim it was s terrorist trainibg camp. Militaries fear us. Always the barrage before the storm when you face the new US. We are merciless yet use precision.

I have no doubt that china is slowly being absorbed into the free world. They don't want to fight the US. We're the nation that exposed their space flight as fake. They can't achieve what we did 50 years ago. But they love selling us stuff and we love giving them our way of life.

World conquest through pepsi, McDonald and coke. Oh and the British chip in with Burger King. Put down your guns and eat cheeseburgers, world. Yes, soda is good and so is AC.

China is compatible with the rest of the world. It's just Russia. They keep fighting it.

In modern warefare 2 the US is invaded by Russia.

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If for some reason, Britain and America fought I have no doubts that you would win. But you can never crush our spirits, you can never demoralise us.
Never.


Here we just call them burgers. LOL - The slice of cheese means nothing. :D

China would be hard enemy for you to take though, their army is much larger than yours, but they have inferior style... everything.

I don't like Pepsi. I like Coca-Cola, Mcdonalds, KFC. And, your versions of our flag. They make me laugh, they're always wrong, and it says "Proudly Made In America" on the bottom. :P

Good tactic. Make terrorists fat, then you storm the caves and they can't get to their weapons fast enough. LOL

I'm stuck on Modern Warfare 2, On the end level 'loose ends', I try running down the hill and shooting everybody quickly, but I always lose...
:-(

I was actually saying we have a small army...
We still rule! :-)
Who do you think would win between the US and China?

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Toby
If for some reason, Britain and America fought I have no doubts that you would win. But you can never crush our spirits, you can never demoralise us.
Never.


Here we just call them burgers. LOL - The slice of cheese means nothing. :D

China would be hard enemy for you to take though, their army is much larger than yours, but they have inferior style... everything.

I don't like Pepsi. I like Coca-Cola, Mcdonalds, KFC. And, your versions of our flag. They make me laugh, they're always wrong, and it says "Proudly Made In America" on the bottom. :P

Good tactic. Make terrorists fat, then you storm the caves and they can't get to their weapons fast enough. LOL

I'm stuck on Modern Warfare 2, On the end level 'loose ends', I try running down the hill and shooting everybody quickly, but I always lose...
:-(

I was actually saying we have a small army...
We still rule! :-)
Who do you think would win between the US and China?


Chinas army is there to maintain control over their people. Do you realize the danger they live in? If the Chinese people were upset enough they could seriously threaten the integrity of their leadership. A million man army means little when it is designed to control a billion people.

People are like cows. Scare them enough and they will plow through police and everyone else trying to get away. Shock and aw is an awesome tactic.

But I don't believe our nations will ever war. We are allies. Also The US could never take China from the Chinese nor would we want to.

..they ain't got no oil y'all! LOL

But yes I think the British would valuently fight any invader. I respect that.

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The Chinese people could run at the Chinese army armed with nothing and the army would be screwed...

People are like cows...


In so many ways... :-)

they ain't got no oil y'all!


LOL - Is that true? That the first thing you did when you invaded Iraq take their oil? :D They don't need it anyway....

Thank you for your last comment. :-)

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Youre making an overweight joke against your fat self? Aren't I the one who should be steriotypicaly fat? Poor diabetics. At least you don't suffer alone. Tons of fat people are diabetic. Thats most of my nation. It's nice to be sexy and sleep with sexy people. They're so shallow and naive.

Sorry I'm fantisizing about life. I do so enjoy existance. I have the imagination of a single child. Oh how it has helps to be creative.

I realized the mistake I've been making. I've been feeding peoples steriotypes inorder to amuse myself with their retarded reponses. I should just be more honest and boring.

As it turns out I usually spend the majority of my helping others. I feed them, counsel them, raise their spirits and give them a sanctuary of a friend. Someone they can confide in. Like even now I tell no one anything of Cboos life. On some levels i even understand why she did it and i accept it. Thats just how I roll.

I don't know what it's like to really hate anyone. I can't do it. It's like the feeling of hate just fades away. I lack the ability to.. power the emotion. In the moment I can be angry but somehow if others start yelling and screaming I suddenly calm down. It's as if them losing their minds makes me more focused. I still argue but because I'm not angry I tend to start laughing... which makes them even more angry. But honestly... people look funny when they are angry.

Life is always a game to a psychopath. We are more like game masters than players though. We don't experience the intensities of emotions.

You ever thought you might be dead inside? I have. It's a horrible thought. Why can't I get hurt? Why don't I cry at funerals? Why is it always funny? People don't trust me because I can't emotionally bleed with them. Thats how... people bond. Emotional experienes. So I have to fake it.

Why do I have to be the bad guy? It gets so old.

My lack of emotional capacity is not a disability? There's no drug to fix me because I'm not broken. But being born different... born special.. does seem to have drawbacks. Just like Jesus... everyone hates you. You tell anyone irl the honest truth that you are a Psychopath... consider yourself crucified.

I'm sure if we lived in a more primitive culture.. my contribution to society would be significantly more valuable and I would not be precieved in a negative light but more admired as a defender.

Do people realize I would help them if I saw they needed assistance? Or do you all assume I wear black clothing and shades... maybe trenchcoat and do angry stuff? LOL.

Really... people are animals. I think the only real defense against a psychopath is self control and we will test it. Given enough exposure... you will have no choice but to like or accept me. Look at Toby... I infected him with the kindness attack. That and guys are more forgiving.

I'm sorry but in my experience... women... especially teenage girls can be the cruelest people on the planet. Far more hateful than I could ever be.

I'm not really jealous of the being angry crap. Also I love women and instantly apologize for being offensive to their race. (cause they ain't like guys). I may be a psycho but I'm still a guy. I don't really think women can be psycho.

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I dont have type 2 Diabetes, I have type 1. Type 1 isn't caused by eating, or being overweight. It's your body atacking itself, it's worse than type 2. I miss lots of sugar. :-(
It's estimated I will die before I'm 55. I try not to think about it, If I show I'm worried to anyone close to me, they will just worry that I'm worrying. :D
I've got to have 4 injections into my leg a day, Or my blood sugar will drop too low - and I will eventually die. LOL

You don't cry at funerals? That's fine, Dont pretend. Just try not to point and laugh at the casket. :D

Born "special"? Sorry, you're no more special than me, or anyone else. It's pointless arguing that Empaths are superior, it's just not true, noone is superior or "special".

You infected me with "Kindness"? It worked, I don't care, I would've gotten to where I am anyway regardless of how you treated me. You just sped it up, Thanks.
So basically, "Kindness attack" insinuates that even on here you are lying, not being your true self. Tell people to **** off again, 'twas fun.

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Heh no.

There would be no point in lying.

You and your misguided thoughts remind me of someone named David. I hated David!!!! LOL love the joker. He was such a good twisted psychopath.