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Re: Desire to find/follow other sociopaths or psychopaths.............

Love it!!!!!

Re: Desire to find/follow other sociopaths or psychopaths.............

This conversation has wandered into strange territory. It seems to have been started by someone who is not necessarily a sociopath, but a masochist looking for a sadist to hurt him. Sado-masochism has nothing to with sociopathy (although some sociopaths can be sadistic or masochistic). All this glorifying of gore and pain is a bit sick in my opinion, and I am sorry to see that so many people apparently identify themselves as sociopaths or psychopaths simply because they are sick in that way.

I am a sociopath who found Dr. Robert's website while researching sociopathy. I had read a lot, both on the web, in elsewhere, but had never found any psychologist with an open attitude towards my kind of mind. Every other source on sociopathy seems somehow to condemn the sociopath as a criminal--not just for criminal actions, which of course some sociopaths, as well as non-sociopaths, commit, but just for being different and having a different kind of mind.

The secret to the doctor's outlook, and what makes him different from other psychologists such as Hare, is his definition of sociopathy which is not based on actions, or desires to commit actions such as some of the ones expressed in this thread, but only on whether or not someone is capable of feeling guilty. When I read that, something clicked, and I understood that human guilt, which I had always despised as foolishness or weakness, is not either foolish or weak, but is just a kind of mind, just as not feeling guilty is neither good nor bad but just a kind of mind. We sociopaths have that kind of mind. One that does not feel guilt. That is why our behavior is different. It is not controlled by guilt.

I am sorry to see so much confusion in this thread which has allowed some strange sado-masochist types to hijack sociopathy. I repeat: sociopathy has nothing to do with blood, gore, violence, or sadism of any kind.

Re: Desire to find/follow other sociopaths or psychopaths.............

George
I repeat: sociopathy has nothing to do with blood, gore, violence, or sadism of any kind.


Agreed. The only person suggesting that was Anthony.

Then again, there are probably uses for blood, gore, violence and sadism. Under the right circumstances, they could be used to further one's ends. Just ask any government anywhere. But yeah, utility is a seperate issue from basic definitions.

Re: Desire to find/follow other sociopaths or psychopaths.............

Excellent post! Thank you very to the point and clear.

Re: Desire to find/follow other sociopaths or psychopaths.............

Kennith Bianchi?