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Re: Corrosion prevention


The Elite frame has always had the option of stainless steel fittings and dropouts, customer choice, 2013 frames will have these as standard. Spirit tubes are as corrosion resistant as any other steel tubes. The BB and dropoouts are not Spirit and can corode if not looked after but this is very unusual indeed.

I choose Long Shen LR12 micro cast dropouts which are plug in. These are far superior to the cheaper slot and braze type mentioned and far prettier in my opinion. The Elite frame is mainly custom made so you can choose any dropout you like at the point of order, plug in are superior, I use them, Dario uses them, as does Ron Cooper, Roberts, De Rosa etc!!

I'm Biased of course but genuinely the Elite is the best riding steel frame there is. If corrosion is a worry then go stainless but I have steel frames out there 25 years old, still going strong! Our fit and handling is un-comparable.

Jamie and Andy for extra tube protection use JP Weigles frame protector, availble at www.framebuilding.com, really worth using.

Best regards and any questions, email me!


Re: Corrosion prevention

Thanks for your reply Mark. I'm very happy to hear that you're switching to stainless dropouts as standard in the future. It's a very positive step for buyers of Elite's. Thank you for listening.
I would like to point out though that Dario by his own admission uses cast dropouts specifically because they are cheaper and allow him to hit a price point, not because of their quality. You don't see them on the Marcelo or Responsorium models. Richard Sachs uses slot and braze exclusively. Seven, IF, Firefly, Waterford, Rourke use slot and braze or custom rather than plug in. Plug ins are cheaper, faster and easier for a frame builder, that's why they get used.

Re: Corrosion prevention

Hi Andy

Richard has just gone plugin too, http://www.richardsachs.com/site/rs-framebuilding-material/

I use them because I really like them and as I said if you go custom you can have anything you like! I am making an Elite now with slot and braze for a customer.

Best regards