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Re: Do you trust your memories?

I think everyone has bouts of confabulation from time to time, well... I do.

I'll completely make up events and stories, and honestly believe they're true for a while.
So you can't always trust your memories, they can be deceiving at times.

What about deja vu?


Forget Deja Vu, Jamais Vu is my problem, it's so irritating knowing logically you've done something, but still perceiving it as your first experience of it.

Maybe time is an illusion but our brains are too primitive to comprehend the universe so we cling to it while it ticks away.


I think we've all got time wrong, or incorrect. It's hard to imagine what there was before time, before the Big Bang, there has got to have been something, don't you think?

Re: Do you trust your memories?

The big bang is just a theory, a shaky one at that, that i've never believed in. It makes as much sense as "god did it". It's based on human arrogance and assumptions based on assumptions based on theories. If you would actually get into it, you would realise how silly the notion really is. I do not wish to discuss it here however but if you really want to, you can look into why it doesn't make any sense.

You sound like a pathological liar, Toby. :P To lie convincingly, you have to believe it yourself, if the lie is big enough with many details and the one being lied to, perceptive.

I was getting at the notion that how can we know that the things we know really even happened? What if a life-defining moment was all conjured up in our minds for whatever reason? Let's say i survived a robbery and my parents didn't. That experience made me become a police officer to protect others but in reality I killed my parents? That was hypothetical, don't get any ideas :P My parents are alive lol.

Re: Do you trust your memories?

Hexi
You sound like a pathological liar, Toby.


I actually had a problem with pathological lying when I was in my teens.

What if a life-defining moment was all conjured up in our minds for whatever reason?


That's confabulation, I can start telling a story that gets everyone interested, and half way through realise that it never happened. I'm not lying on purpose, I truly believe for about a minute that my story is/was real and only after everyones got really interested and they're hanging on my every word do I remember it never happened and it's all in my mind. I then have to work out how to tell everyone it wasn't true. :D

Hexi
That experience made me become a police officer to protect others but in reality I killed my parents? That was hypothetical, don't get any ideas :P My parents are alive lol.


Sure you didn't kill them, Hexi. Sure. :D

Re: Do you trust your memories?

Why do you backtrack and tell everyone it never happened? You've got your audience thinking your awesome wtih awesome stories. But i digress. How DO you know things that no one else experienced really happened? Mind you, i'm not speaking out of personal experience or doubting my own reality, i'm just entertaining the idea.

Re: Do you trust your memories?

Hexi
Why do you backtrack and tell everyone it never happened? You've got your audience thinking your awesome wtih awesome stories.


I don't like lying, as I don't like liars, so I try not to... to friends.

Hexi
How DO you know things that no one else experienced really happened?


I suppose you don't really know for certain... That's a daunting reality.

Re: Do you trust your memories?

Toby


I suppose you don't really know for certain... That's a daunting reality.


I find it rather fascinating. It's also why i take historical accountings from a single source so critically. We understand so little about the human mind. Then there is dreams that are SO real that you have to check things when you wake up to make sure it was a dream. Dreams are glimpses into such a marvelous concepts, it's all quite fascinating. Maybe dreams are glimpses into what happened, what might have happened and what might happen but it's all mixed up as our brain can't process the information. I've actually dreamed about the future or an alternative reality many times. Like for example a car crash that my friend was in years ago. I remember dreaming that he did die in the crash, that was the only thing that was "off" in relation to reality.

Re: Do you trust your memories?

Hexi
Then there is dreams that are SO real that you have to check things when you wake up to make sure it was a dream.


Right? I'll have a dream I've argued with a friend and I'll act all angry towards them, and It will be ages before I realise it never happened. :D

Hexi
Maybe dreams are gimples into what happened, what might have happened and what might happen.

My recurring dream is that I'm being chased around a football stadium by a bear. I don't see that happening anytime in the foreseeable future. :D
It's a good theory though, many people say they've been able to dream what's going to happen to them in the near future, but that might just be because their brains are so determined to find something, they make it happen in a way.

Re: Do you trust your memories?

But do you ever contemplate where these come from? There must be something in our psyche that triggers them. I don't believe that permonitions are accurate, more like what our subconscious has gathered but can't quite put into a whole picture. The sad part is that most people just ignore dreams alltogether without giving them any thought. Then again, that is true with so many things, sadly.

Re: Do you trust your memories?

I've tried to interpret my dream with a professional, and they told me it was that I would grow up to be a homo, and it's been 12 years since the dream started and I'm not a homo yet... so finger crossed. :D
Either that or I was running away from the 'inner bear', and that's just a load of crap. WTF is an inner bear? It's nothing.

But I do think dreams have a meaning, like your sub-concious trying to tell you something or alert you to something perhaps.

What do you think my dream could mean? A guess maybe. It boggles my mind.

Re: Do you trust your memories?

That a scenario where a bear will maul you to death in an open field with no place to run is a deep fear of yours? I don't know. What kind of a retard would associate a bear in a field to being gay? Seriously...

Re: Do you trust your memories?

Chase dreams are quite common and often reflect a situation that you are afraid in confronting. The bear is symbolic of introspection and self-reflection. In mythology, it also refers to the great mother figure.

The green fields indicates your hopes and your unlimited potential for growth.


I found this.. interesting...

Hoxo
What kind of a retard would associate a bear in a field to being gay? Seriously...


:D My thoughts entirely!

Re: Do you trust your memories?

So your dream means that you need to grow as a person by letting your fears go? That's great advice for anyone! You don't need a dream to come to that conclusion, which makes it an empty platitude to spout to naive people who will shell out money for such sage advice. *snort*

Here is my interpetation. You're afraid that a hairy rugby player will manhandle you. Now, give money!

Re: Do you trust your memories?

You're afraid that a hairy rugby player will manhandle you.


LOL - That's the best interpretation so far. :)

shell out money for such sage advice/


I spent £55 on that ****ty interpretation, when I could've got it from the internet for free, and it'd probably be better.

Now, give money!


LOL Nice try. :D
I just bought a 3D television, let's hope they're all they're cracked up to be...

Re: Do you trust your memories?

That's right, Hexi. Such all-inclusive generalizations are just one of dozens of tried-and-true techniques in the old art of cold reading--the chicanery which for centuries has been employed by tarot readers, palm readers, crystal ball gazers, and all manner of self-described psychic.

As to why so many people buy this kind of nonsense, I think P.T. Barnum had it right when he said, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the public."
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Re: Do you trust your memories?

There are gaps in my memory. I've done things I have no recollection of. Like when I crashed and fractured my skull... I don't even remember the moments leading up to that event.

So no, I don't trust my memories all that much.

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