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Re: Promised Suffering is evidence of fulfillment Pt II

Thanks you for your informative response Nicholas. The existence of suffering has never been a problem for me, not even suffering of the most intense kind, because I believe that because of what Chist accomplished for us all by His death and resurrection, God is going to transform every second of everyone's suffering, both now, and after the great white throne judgment, into something better that it all happened.

It was my inability to successfully emotionally cope with the idea that God lets any one individual suffer "forever" that drove me insane for twelve years.

To me the important issue Nicholas is that there is irrefutable evidence that a correct (literal) translation of the Bible teaches universal reconciliation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation.

The writers of the following material all believe that a correct (literal) translation of the Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless
suffering in hell, or even annihilation.

First of all there is the TENTMAKER site http://www.tentmaker.org/

In the middle of the front page is THE SCHOLAR'S CORNER. It will help you deal with every argument against the Bible teaching universal reconciliation.

On the left-hand side is access to several writings that thoroughly refute arguments that support the doctrine of never ending suffering in hell.

At the top, is a very comprehensive search engine. For example, type in the word "eternal". You may be surprised how many pages come up, each page listing ten different articles by teachers of universal reconciliation. There are a total of more than 600 pages each containing access to ten articles
per page that refute the idea that the Word of God teaches endless suffering in hell or annihilation for any creature.

Another great UR (universal reconciliation) site is at
http://www.godstruthfortoday.org/

The section called IN THE GARDEN (accessible from the front page) contains so many eloquent, inspirational, Christ-glorifying articles by teachers of universal reconciliation like William Mealand and Donald Hayter, etc.

Then there is THE MAIN LIBRARY (also accessible from the front page) which is LARGE, and contains the writings of MANY teachers of universal reconciliation.

Four scriptural expositions supporting UR are found at
http://concordant.org/expohtml/HumanDestiny/doubts.html

http://concordant.org/expohtml/HumanDestiny/1cor15.html

http://www.godstruthfortoday.org/Library/knoch/ReplyToUniversalismRefuted/refuted1.htm
(copy and paste on address bar in two sections if necessary)

http://concordant.org/expohtml/TheEons/index.html

One of the important tools for believing that the Bible teaches universal reconciliation is to use a correct (literal) translation of the Bible. Here are several. The ones on line you don't even have to pay for.
CORRECT TRANSLATIONS ONLINE

CONCORDANT http://www.concordant.org/version/html.html

YOUNG'S LITERAL http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/rylt/rylt.html

URIM-THUMMIM http://bibleprophet.com/indexPUTV.html

OTHER CORRECT TRANSLATIONS NOT ONLINE LISTED AT

http://hellbusters.8m.com/asw10.htm and
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/Hell_is_Leaving_the_Bible_Forever.html

I think the Concordant Literal Translation is the most accurate.

Of the versions not online I like ROTHERHAM'S EMPHASISED BIBLE the best.

Here are charts that you can print off that display what believers in universal transformation believe that the Bible teaches.
http://www.saviour-of-all.org/ThingsOfInterest.html

Lastly, there is my own personal site. If you click on LINKS on my menu board, it will take you to dozens of UR sites. Some of them are especially good like THE SAVIOUR OF ALL FELLOWSHIP, and THE CONCORDANT PUBLISHING CONCERN. My url is
http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

I would also like to mention four scholars that have been an enormous help to me through the years. They commit a large portion of their time on the internet helping people who have problems relating to the Bible teaching universal transformation. You might wish to contact them directly, because they know so much more than I do about the subject.

One is Tony Nungesser at THE SAVIOUR OF ALL FELLOWSHIP
tnungesser@adlmi.org

Another is Richard C. Condon at email@godstruthfortoday.org

Another is James Coram at THE CONCORDANT PUBLISHING CONCERN at email@concordant.org

And the fourth is Gary Amirault at TENTMAKER gary@tentmaker.org

We agree that "salvation is fully by the grace of God through faith in Christ Jesus." But we also believe that EVERYONE will eventually benefit from this grace and will exercise saving faith in Christ according to God's perfect timing for each individual.

From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada

"That God may be All in all" 1Cor.15:28