Your in luck, sort of. The Website Wizard is not the best tool to use for a web site, but it does work. Your luck is that your using the Blue Wizard. If you had decided to use the Red Wizard, you wouldn't have been able to add your keywords.

In the Wizard, there is a link that says "website details". This is where you can add your description and keywords for your meta tags. Add your information and then publish your web site. The Wizard will create the necessary meta tags.

But don't expect your site to hit the top over night. Search engines are relying less and less on the information in meta tags. If your keywords don't match the content of your site, you could easily be pushed to the bottom of a search. Many people are under the impression that search engines actually search the internet. They don't, they search their data bases. When someone submits their site, they are put in a queue and indexed. If your site doesn't raise any red flags, it gets rated and added to the data base. But, even if you don't have any meta tags and keywords, your site will still be found, indexed, rated and added to the data base. My web site has no meta tags and continuously turns up on the first page, for any search that is related to my site's content.

thanks for your fast response. I am not the most computer savt person but all the keywords were tested with the yahoo search marketing account and i could get inot the first 5 pages with bids of .10 - .30 so I all of teh keywords were approved by yahoo and went through the editorial submission and approval process. at first i had to argue for acceptance because many of the keywords did not show up on the webpages. Obvious ly to draft paragraphs and compose a story line with all of the kwywords in it would take at least a few days to rough draft and edit. The web designer that I ttalked to about this mentioned that the keywords have to be both in the metatitle and the metadescription and when you view source code on webpages it shows up on everypage on the website. Also it must be on the webpages itself otherwise when the search engine reads it it ends up on the search page as part of a list and i do not think that it is rated well in terms of page ranking as it had no interesting story line. So no one gets it and the information is not useful to put on a first page or the first 5 pages i think because no one can understand it. But all the people that I tlaked to that design websites and what i have observed and learned all indicate that you must have both or be able to structure a metatag that itself when read makes sense and that is what would show up in the first 5 pages in a search for computer dust cabinets for instance. so I will give this a try first what you have suggested. then i will go back and edit the list of words on the website by trying to structure them into sentences as part of a description about the product which it seems to be what you mean. if you can tell me waht your website is I would appreciate it as i can read the description to get an idea of how to rewrite mine. it may help thanks alot

robert

I post the URL for my web site in all my postings. Depending on how your viewing this forum, it's either right below my name, at the top of the post, or under the icons on the left. Although right now, my web host seems to be having problems and response is a little slow.

I appreciate you going to my site, but as I said, I don't have any meta tags. Gaining a ranking in a search engine depends on many things, not just a description and keyword meta tag. My site has a very narrow interest group, and getting a good ranking in a search engine was not one of my goals. It's just something I had an idea to do, and had a fun time doing it.

Everyone has their own opinions on how to get a good ranking. On the top of my list is content. You have to have lots of good content pertaining to your site. If you have good content, the search engine will recognize it when it indexes your site. Having meta tags is good and having content that is not mentioned in your description or keywords is fine, but using a description or keyword that isn't in your content is not so good. Search engines consider that keyword stuffing and will discard your site.

Then, get your site linked to, from as many other sites as you can. Trade links with other sites that are dealing with the same subject matter. A link exchange may be a good idea, but I have never dealt with one. However, stay away from those annoying traffic builders, like Bravenet's Traffic Exchange, that pop up some unrelated garbage. All it does is annoy the visitor and draw them away from your site.

Another aide would be to list your web site in every posting you do to the internet. Search engines search more than just web sites. Forums like these are searched all the time. If you post some helpful information, or even just a question, a search engine will follow the links to your web site. Just don't be rude about it with a big splashy signature. Oh, by the way, you have your URL wrong in your second posting. I think you get the prize for the longest URL. It's no wonder you couldn't remember it. If you are having trouble remembering it, so will everyone else. It's time for you to get a nice short, easy to remember, domain name. They don't get much shorter than mine.

Don't waste your time including your email address everywhere. Forums are not intended as private message centers and all it gets you is lots of spam. You shouldn't even have a email address on your web site. Provide a form on your site that works through a email form processor. Visitors can contact you directly, and reliably. Most email form services have some built in spam prevention.

I'm sure that others on these forums will have their own opinions on how to get a good ranking.

thanks

The following: -

"But, even if you don't have any meta tags and keywords, your site will still be found, indexed, rated and added to the data base. My web site has no meta tags and continuously turns up on the first page, for any search that is related to my site's content."

Is very interesting.

Now I will be upgrading soon.
Does this happen, only once you get your .com registered.
Would it happen even before that too, or only after one has officially - as I want to do soon - registered their domain?

i was able t get all of the keywords on that page into the metatags or metacode still no luck. A bit frustrating. To me this is a no brainer the keywords shoule show up in the first five pages for those words. I put everything into this site even the sitepal talking characters on the website and my ebay listing. Ebay is killing me Mo luck on the first 10 days. then I messed up on the second listing and cheated myseldf out of 4 days then now a third listing. It is a real mystery on how to crack this code. There must be some way to change the code in the html language even if a program was added to the coding on not just the words. There must be a way. Thes blogs or posts show up immediately so that suggestion works. But the people that created the internet were from a think tank at MIT and I came accross a book at the Bookstore at Rockefeller center priot to sept 11th and learned this fact. in many respects using ebay gets you a first page on all the words that you can get in the title of your kisting on ebay. So maybe my sales pitch is wrong. When you tell people all the resons why something works. They don't care. As tory is what they want and pictures. So here is waht I am going to do for the words on the keyword page. I am going to google up those words and see the decriptions that they are contained in that ends up on the first page. Then draft my own description of my product using the that one word. I do not think that the game as it were likes rewards stuffing key words even if we know that they are highly relevent. All the words on that page were run through the word tracker site which you can use to generate the keywords. to me we should be rewoeded not punished for being smart enough to leave no stone unturned and to find all of the words.

But I believe that A new angle to this problem lies specifically in inserting a program into the html coding language. when I added the sitepal charcater it surprised me that the javascript was very brief. Ther must be a way or some programs already on the net possible even fo free that can be studied to win the game. The game is everything. Money and profit motive is also why we all have the websites. we want the traffic and the business to prosper on this earth. i have almost a year into trying to realize how to make the internet become a reality for me in establishing a prosperous business. I also worked on Wall street getting leads for stock brokers. So I look for my own leads but when when I ran the yahoo serch marketing campaign and tested pay for click words it worked but the conversion was never realized because the project was never run long enough. The peak statstics came in the last 5 days according to my records and the dats was 5000 impressions with 130 or so keywords all of these words on the keyword page were the ones approved and in use in teh yahoo account. I don't have the dats in front of me but I am quessing that ther were 30 - 40 clicks to the website. But the site I had to work with was still very unnavigatable and outdated. So I need to work quickley to get this site the best that it can be as quickly as possible. To me with my prices low and if I could get that kind of duplication of results without paying for the clicks I figure the sales could be substantial. We are all trying to make a profit. So this code has to be cracked and the profit is deserved because honestly at this point the tutorial that this site gives you gives us all a fair chance to make the internet work and its free. That good because doing it yourself is important and geting some mastery of the web creating is important since we cannot really market a product a product without WEBSITE. eVEN IF WE DIRECT PROSPECTS TO THE website ourselves. So i will try to look further to solve this problem.

Robert, your site doesn't come up when I google "Thompson Plastic And Chemical Company"

So apperently you have forgotten to register your site, or it hasn't been spidered yet. First step is to register your site with search engines.

Also, please remember that it isn't logical that there must be a way to assure you a good standing in Search Engines.

Like Martin, I have pages that will always come in the top ten. Some of them no. 1, some of them the only page you will find in that particular search. Without really trying, and without any meta tags.

This isn't from being particularly clever, but because we write about weird stuff nobody else cares to write about. Well, I do, anyway. I've been to Martin's site, but cannot remember what the main site is about (If I had been younger, or my memory better, I might have said that proves my point.) In fact, some of the pages were created because I was frustrated that I couldn't find the information on the internet and had to dig through other sources.

But, anyway, suppose the search engine placement was due to some clever secret of mine. Then it would obviously be very useful to you - until I started telling everybody else about it. A bit like being a spectator at a game - if you stand up, you'll see better - until everybody else does the same thing.

As long as you don't do very stupid things (some sites have all the important info in images), concentrate on the game instead, and make your site the best possible. Try to think of yourself as a potential customer, what would you want to find on the site? A noisy cartoon, say? Probably not. And don't cover the images with text.

Move the products up - if people like them, they will want the contact information, but perhaps not the other way around.

You have some images that I copied into PaintShop to see full size (bad idea to "resize" images that way, even if they should be presented that small) to see what they were images of. So you should probably use them full size or not at all.

thanks alot

I found some stuff on the net so I will obviously try to keep it to myself of coarse we can view the source code of any site so i really do not know if anything can be kept secret. But I get the point. But I just regitered the domain name that is waht I found out so it should be right as the meta tags are how the serach engines find a site. THose are the rules of the game. So it should work. As far as moving the pictures up do you mean to the top of the webpage. I put the images in smaller size on the top I borrowed teh idea from a website I saw. i can make changes later right now the registration was done but i think it takes 24-48 hrs to get into the internet. Tthe other concepts are out there but the code is complex however I think I can fix it and i can email you about it if you want to hear me out. I probably would have to build a new website just to test the code as I am not an experienced computer programmer. But even mathematics is not that difficult. I met with a guy today and went over the calculus on a paper that was published several years ago. We did the calculations and when we finished the mathematician really did not get what I was trying to do but he showed me how to do the ccalculations. Then when i went back over the paper I found another equation and recalculated the solution. We had a value for a variable and the guy just did not understand the common sense of what I wanted to know. The concepts a in that paper were very broad. And very specific as to what the point was. So clearly it was the way to solve the problem but a programer or a mathematician knows how to manipulate the equations they rarely get the braoder picture. So in economics science which i have a Degree the only way you can slove a problem is to understand that the math is already solved its just memorization. You have to piece eveything together though. I am certain that I can crack the code but I think its overkill . The registration is the primary problem. I get 0 traffic so we will see. its 5 impressions not 5000 in 4 days which I nailed on yahoo with those keywords. I really wanted them just in the code not on the page but its eveywhere right now till something breaks loose and I start getting some business. When yahoo search marketing ended it was a peak value. 5000 x 7= 28000 impresions I forget teh number of clicks. say 50 or so.per day When is the sale comming ? we all want to know that one. Wher is the money because I know I can sell the product cold calling and so that is what is going on right now. But out of that and ebay alone I things should be working but ebay is not working and over ten days have passed no sale. Honestly it is difficult I know they need the product and I improved it over a product that selld for $300 -$456 then $10 for a dozen filters and you need two per cabinet. I know I have the product then I put in the kevlar. the problem to me is whay should I have to pay money for a yahoo pay per click when I am using the same words in my code? Is makes not sense so it has o be the registration. So that was done two hours ago. But if I tested all the words and I think my website looks okay there is more I want to add. But without a god page ranking as i did before byy buying bidding on the words nothing will sell and it then a program would have to be developed in the next week. I know from experience spending three months on that yahoo search marketing that once I had all those words Ther was still absolutely no sale conversion to the best of my knowledge but all the cold calling brought in $20000 in sales. But it takes 2 months on average to for those prospects to buy. So I don't know its a mystery. You know I still think I ned to add computer software to the box but it needs to run on microsoft windows XP and Vista.