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Re: So much suffering is caused by the horrific false doctrine of eternal torment

OK after reading a lot of your things I have a serious problem with something you said in this one.

"I'm 69, and I am acquainted with many people who are, or were in various stages of nervous breakdown over their inability to love a god who would let anyone suffer forever. Even though they have embraced Christ and His gospel, they are afraid of what God might do to them after they are raised from the dead for not being able to love Him. The information in my testimony has helped many of these people."

OK basically you have said that you are acquainted with many people who have judged God as unrighteous and are afriad God is going to punish them for saying he's wrong and unjust. Your testimony makes people feel BETTER about thinking this way of God?

ROMANS 9: 13-16 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy.

ROMANS 3:3-4 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

People need to quit taking their ideas of whats right and wrong and defining who God is with them. What you and I think is wrong doesn't mean squat. What GOD says is wrong is what really matters. If he says he casts the wicked in the lake of fire forever then HE IS RIGHT IN DOING IT. It's a very serious thing to look at something God does and then say "I can't love a god who would do something like that." I would HATE to be one of the people who said that!

Re: So much suffering is caused by the horrific false doctrine of eternal torment

Men must not attempt to remove the guilt that only God can remove.

Hebrews 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

God has provided a means through which man may become clean, not just feel clean. What lasting benefit would I be doing my brethren if I made them feel accepted by God, but in reality they were not?

All men will stand before the God who said "vengeance is mine"

Jeremiah 46:10
For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries:...

The message of the Gospel would loose it's relevance if this day of judgment was not real. What possible purpose would God be serving in taking away sin if in the end it didn't really matter anyway?

Besides all this, God has spoken through the Prophets concerning this day, Jesus has spoken and pronounced some "woes" concerning it and the Apostles also preached concerning escaping this impending day of wrath. It seems to me that anyone who would attempt to disprove something that God has so clearly demonstrated as being true, is not operating with an honest and good heart. I want to be charitable but when faced with the day of wrath this is serious business. This is no time to be "walking" on egg shells. The truth concerning the lake of fire is real and it needs to be preached as God presents it, not as "some" men perceive it.

In Christ,
Robert Cobb